Comments on: Ohm’s Law and Grails Form Submissions http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/2009/06/16/ohms-law-and-grails-form-submissions/ Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:13:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Phillip Calvin http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/2009/06/16/ohms-law-and-grails-form-submissions/comment-page-1/#comment-2655 Phillip Calvin Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:17:53 +0000 http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/?p=90#comment-2655 You're completely right, and I've certainly fallen victim to both unfounded and totally founded suspicions about Grails. As for the deluge of GSP tags (the root source of confusion here), James and I have found actual, on-your-desk, dead-tree copies of this resource invaluable: http://docs.codehaus.org/download/attachments/40788/grailsqr-1.1.0.pdf You’re completely right, and I’ve certainly fallen victim to both unfounded and totally founded suspicions about Grails.

As for the deluge of GSP tags (the root source of confusion here), James and I have found actual, on-your-desk, dead-tree copies of this resource invaluable:

http://docs.codehaus.org/download/attachments/40788/grailsqr-1.1.0.pdf

]]> By: tlberglund http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/2009/06/16/ohms-law-and-grails-form-submissions/comment-page-1/#comment-2072 tlberglund Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:50:53 +0000 http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/?p=90#comment-2072 This is a very good point. Knowledge that stunningly obvious bugs *do* exist is what keeps me following rabbit trails in cases like this. A good check on that is to search the bug database and mailing lists early on in the debugging process, *before* you're convinced that the CPU's ADD instruction isn't working correctly. If there's no mention of "Can't post parameters to an action using <g:form>" in the Grails Jira, then it's time to take a long, deep breath and figure out with what caliber and cyclic rate of fire you're shooting yourself in the foot. But if there is, then you've saved yourself hours of debugging anguish, and can move on to a workaround or a solution. Speaking for myself, I usually just keep the trigger pressed and wonder what that pain in my lower leg is. I mean, what could a bug database or mailing list possibly teach *me*? [Editor: often very much!] This is a very good point. Knowledge that stunningly obvious bugs *do* exist is what keeps me following rabbit trails in cases like this. A good check on that is to search the bug database and mailing lists early on in the debugging process, *before* you’re convinced that the CPU’s ADD instruction isn’t working correctly. If there’s no mention of “Can’t post parameters to an action using ” in the Grails Jira, then it’s time to take a long, deep breath and figure out with what caliber and cyclic rate of fire you’re shooting yourself in the foot. But if there is, then you’ve saved yourself hours of debugging anguish, and can move on to a workaround or a solution.

Speaking for myself, I usually just keep the trigger pressed and wonder what that pain in my lower leg is. I mean, what could a bug database or mailing list possibly teach *me*? [Editor: often very much!]

]]> By: Matthew McCullough http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/2009/06/16/ohms-law-and-grails-form-submissions/comment-page-1/#comment-2071 Matthew McCullough Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:37:23 +0000 http://www.augusttechgroup.com/tim/blog/?p=90#comment-2071 I agree with your general premise and have been caught by the "must be this..." monster more than a few times. However, I'd add, "Never be afraid to search the bug database for a similar issue." More than a few times, I've been astonished by an issue that hampers a major flow for the entire user-base , yet hasn't been resolved. Thus is the case of Open Source. And a valid reply is "it's waiting for a smart person like you to fix it." The bug database is just one more avenue to inspect... before challenging the laws of physics as a last resort. I agree with your general premise and have been caught by the “must be this…” monster more than a few times.

However, I’d add, “Never be afraid to search the bug database for a similar issue.” More than a few times, I’ve been astonished by an issue that hampers a major flow for the entire user-base , yet hasn’t been resolved. Thus is the case of Open Source. And a valid reply is “it’s waiting for a smart person like you to fix it.”

The bug database is just one more avenue to inspect… before challenging the laws of physics as a last resort.

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